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The Infrared Group is for people who shoot and love Infrared photography. If you want to get into Infrared photography, join the group. If you already do IR, and want to pass on knowledge to your fellows, this is a great place to do it on Tabblo.
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Palo's MOVING CROSS COUNTRY featured created by Engelgrafik on Feb 1, 2007:
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Engelgrafik said at 9:18 a.m. on Feb 1, 2007:
I added Palo's because I like how he exemplifies some of the quintessential IR effects but uses and exploits these to simply create great black and white photography. Notice how his landscape shots really pop and show depth. One of the things that's tricky about IR is you tend to lose depth that haze and UV normally gives you in regular shots. IR cuts through this stuff and it's easy to make a very "flat" image. This is nice in some ways, but with wide vistas, it can confuse you. Palo does a great job making sure you know what you're looking at in terms of distance... he chooses landscapes that have staggered objects, like bison, then hill, then clouds, then mountains, etc. Well constructed and beautiful shots.
JeffS said at 10:16 a.m. on Feb 1, 2007:
Looks like the Tabblo folks appreciate IR also. Both "Moving Cross Country" and "12 Miles West" were featured as Tabblo of the Day recently. Congrats!
Dunster said at 4:23 p.m. on Feb 1, 2007:
I think the IR is also complemented nicely by the color shots. You get to appreciate the vista in two very different ways, and thus appreciate it in other ways.
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Suhud's GRASSY THEORY added to Featured created by Engelgrafik on Jan 21, 2007:
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Engelgrafik said at 12:04 p.m. on Jan 21, 2007:
I really like the fact that Suhud's IR subjects are not typical. I mainly shoot landscapes with IR, sometimes people, but it's rare. Suhud seems to have a plethora of human subjects for his IR photography and the resulting photos are interesting and emotional dreamscapes with strong human elements. IR is no longer important, it is simply another camera with its own unique and distinctive attributes that help Suhud create the art he wants to express.
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New Fuji IS-1 created by JeffS on Jan 4, 2007:
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JeffS said at 11:42 a.m. on Jan 4, 2007:
I saw this in http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2078788,00.aspThe fourth digital camera Fuji is introducing is the IS-1 superzoom digital camera, which will have a fixed 10.7x, 28-300mm optical zoom lens, which is similar to the S6000fd. But to differentiate this superzoom, the company has made this camera an infrared-only digital camera. In doing so, they hope to tap into several vertical markets, including the law enforcement, medical/dental and science fields. It's also an alternative for those who may not be able to afford Fuji's first infrared-camera, the FinePix S3 Pro UVIR D-SLR. The IS-1 will list a $899, which is significantly cheaper the Fuji infrared D-SLR.
Engelgrafik said at 9:06 p.m. on Jan 4, 2007:
Very interesting... not sure it's worth paying $900 for a point-and-shoot. My Nikon 995 cost $180 for the camera and $125 for the mod. Today you can buy a Nikon D50 dSLR for $500 refurbed with 18-55 lens and then mod it for $250. My guess is that will blow away the quality of the new Fuji. However, the Fuji might have some neat tricks that the mods can't do.
Suhud said at 9:07 p.m. on Jan 7, 2007:
thank for the info, jeff. maybe this one is the camera i'm looking for.
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Missing IR Group tabblos created by Engelgrafik on Dec 24, 2006:
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Engelgrafik said at 11:06 a.m. on Dec 24, 2006:
Just in case people have had missing IR Tabblos, please repost them! I don't delete Tabblos from this group unless the photos are from non-IR light.
Dunster said at 12:00 p.m. on Dec 29, 2006:
Unfortunately, we had a bug that caused tabblos to be removed from groups unexpectedly. We made a fix yesterday that I believe will fix it once and for all. I apologize for the inconvenience.
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Don't Tell Mom I've Killed the Colors! created by Suhud on Dec 17, 2006:
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Suhud said at 10:49 p.m. on Dec 17, 2006:
I felt in love in photography in 2003. Since that moment, i never stop to learn what and how. Basicly, I adore black and white. I learn dark room and the art beyond. Since digital camera attacked the market, the trend has changed. Everyone becomes a photogapher. I insisted to keep photographing with black and white film. Until one day I found Sony DSC F 828. Digital camera with night shoot fiture. I add a couple of lens to manipulate the light. Magic! That's another face of black and white!
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What camera/film do you use? created by JeffS on Nov 17, 2006:
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JeffS said at 5:13 p.m. on Nov 17, 2006:
I've never done any infrared photos myself, but I've always been interested in the IR photos of others. I guess the first place to start is what camera/film to use if one wants to try it out? [ Jeff described his digital camera to me, but maybe he can also share the details here. ]
Engelgrafik said at 2:18 p.m. on Nov 18, 2006:
I use a Nikon Coolpix 995 that has been modified internally to take IR photos, so that it can still focus TTL and give you preview on LCD screen just like any other digital point-and-shoot. Works great. You have to remove the RGB glass in front of the sensor and replace it with plain glass cut from Home Depot and Wratten IR filter attached to it. This is delicate work, so I recommend contacting Brody at Dezember Photo out west and ask him to do it for you. There are others spring up as well, but he does a good job. If you use film, the most accessible is Kodak High Speed Infrared Film. It's 100 ISO and really does the best work in bright sunlight. Combined with a red filter, it gives you the quintessential big-grained glowy IR images. Digital IR won't give you this result, but then you also can't get the detail nor the dynamic range (from what I can tell) of the digital with the IR film simply because it's so grainy. Well, the red filter will help with the range. The two have different effects somewhat, although this difference is analogous to saying that tri-x is different than Ilford Delta 3200. Of course, but they both take great images. Same goes for film vs. digital IR in general. One thing that is not the same is Photoshop manipulation to make something look IR. When it happens, it usually is overkill and beyond IR. It looks so fantastic (i mean that in the real sense of the word.. fantasy-like and non-believable) that the subject no longer has much importance or interest. My experience, at least. Here's a link to a bunch of stuff about IR film: http://www.pauck.de/marco/photo/infrared/comparison_of_films/comparison_of_films.html
DSkok said at 3:49 p.m. on Nov 19, 2006:
I use a Sony DSC-N1 that I purchased from maxmax.com. I liked the idea that I would be able to see the Infrared effects before I took the shot on the preview screen. MaxMax will take pretty much any digital camera and remove the infrared filter that sits in front of the sensor. Then they sell you a filter to place in front of the lens that only lets in infrared light. I found some useful instruction here on how to best post-process the images here: http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1111417From the above article, the most useful thing I learnt is to use the white balance tool to remove the magenta tint from the original Infrared image.
Engelgrafik said at 11:10 a.m. on Dec 24, 2006:
DSkok thanks for the link. That's about what I normally do as well, however I like to use Curves instead of Levels. Curves gives you a bit more control... you use the black eyedropper to determine which part of the photo is black, and everything darker than that will be black as well. You use the white eyedropper to determine what is white, and again, everything that is brighter than that will be white as well. The point is you have to be careful or you may lose detail or blow out highlights when you use Curves, however it can also help balance out the image perfectly. Curves is the "pro" method of color correction in all the print shops, so it's worth it to learn. :)
Pixelbender said at 9:41 p.m. on Apr 18, 2008:
Question for Jeff, and others with converted IR digicams: I am ready to do the mod on my Coolpix 995. Had no luck contacting Dezember, but found a replacement filter for $145. at LifePixel.com . LifePixel states that they re-calibrate the focus of all cameras they convert in-house, but if you do it yourself, there is no information available. Jeff, do you know if your 995 was re-adjusted for focus. Or should it be the norm that with DIY IR internal mods; you can pretty much trust the autofocus, at least with medium apertures. Does your 995 focus well, or do you have to always compensate? Thanks for any input.
Engelgrafik said at 8:37 a.m. on Apr 19, 2008:
Pixelbender, I'm not aware of a need to calibrate for focusing. There are instructions online that give no indication of a need to calibrate for focusing. The point-and-shoot cameras are made to automatically focus because there is no possibility of really changing any lenses. It's the dSLRs that require calibration and that's why they ask you what is your most common lens you use when they modify that. I'm curious about the replacement filter you bought. Did you buy an entire Wratten filter? That would explain the high price. The problem is you now are only going to cut out a tiny bitty piece of that filter to place over your 995's sensor, so you'll be left with a big Wratten gel with a tiny square cut out of it. This is why I recommend getting someone else to do the mod because they already have those filters they cut and they charge you for the labor and "clean-room" environment. And of course, it works and they usually have a warranty in case it doesn't work. I've had trouble myself contacting Brody Dezember. I think he may be busy now with his wedding photography business. I don't blame him! I got his information from the digital infrared section at Gary Fong's messageboard http://www.digitalphotographers.net (.net, not .com). If you subscribe and read the messageboards, you can maybe contact the people in the various messages who say they've done mods. That is how I contacted Gary. Just realize that the messages have dates but not years, so some of the posts may be from over 2 years ago and pricing might be very different as the demand for IR mods has risen dramatically.
Pixelbender said at 3:54 p.m. on Apr 19, 2008:
Engelgrafik, thanks for the info. Makes sense that the point and shoot 995 will need no focus adjustment with a substitute for the hot mirror. The replacement filter is an 89b type, sized in thickness and in dimension to exactly replace the native hot mirror. A few months ago it was $95, but everything is going up. Cleanroom mods look to currently be $300 to over $400, so if I don't break the old Nikon, I will be happy. I will also look to Gary's messageboard. I look forward to posting new IR captures with your tabblos.
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What is Infrared? created by Engelgrafik on Nov 1, 2006:
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Engelgrafik said at 8:31 a.m. on Nov 1, 2006:
First off, Infrared isn't X-Ray, so it isn't about "seeing through clothing". It isn't always "night vision". That's a very limited range of Infrared which most cameras can't do (although some can, and that's pretty cool as well). The term Infrared, when used in photography circles, mostly refers to what is known as the Actinic Range of Infra- and Near-Infra-Red light which a human's eyes cannot detect, see, nor focus upon. Therefore, the average camera is quite useless to capture this range of light... unless one uses an Infrared filter, or, in the case of film, Infrared-sensitive film, and an understanding of how to compensate focus with the lens you are using (in the old days, lenses had a red or orange dot or mark which would signify where you compensated once you focused regularly for visible light... sadly most lenses manufactured since the '90s no longer have these markings, so it's a crapshoot as to where the true focus point is). Above all, Infrared photography is fun. You see things in a different light (no pun intended). There is a great need for understanding the subtleties of psychography, the phenonema of symbology and color and the things we are "used to" seeing that elicit emotions, because with Infrared those habits and cultural reactions change and nothing is taken for granted anymore. People appear different, perhaps less "personal" and subjective, and more objective, because features smooth out, skin becomes perfect, most clothes and hair become white... Some may say resulting photos are less human, others say it is greater than just one human. One thing for sure, Infrared always gets a double-take from the audience. People wonder, they go "huh?" and look again. And this gives them another chance to marvel at the beauty of the world around us, to almost see the world for the first time again.
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