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Saddam

From: beppegrillo.it  blog

 

Is the killing of an assassin, assassination? Can the punishment for a crime be applied with the same crime? Rape with rape, theft with theft, death with death? To condemn the murder and then apply murder by law is an enchantment. A contradiction of the human mind.

A vendetta, not law. Saddam has been hanged. Condemned by the Iraqi people. But no one believes it. The hands of the executioner were Iraqi, but the executioner was Bush. Saddam should have been condemned to life in prison.

He should have grown old in prison. Lost his haughtiness. With the execution, he was gifted a dignity that he did not have. A made-in-Texas greatness.

Now Saddam is a martyr and in his death we need to remember the war with Iran financed by the USA. The good Saddam, ally of the West against Khomeini. The Saddam who was secular and supporting the West.

Then he set up on his own and this was an intolerable insult to American democracy. That of the 2 million prisoners and arms of death. And of the control of the Persian Gulf.

If Saddam was a criminal, then so are a few Heads of State with seats in the United Nations. Why Saddam and them not? Oil. The whole world declared the first war against Iraq because of the invasion of Kuwait and its oil wells. In Darfur hundreds of thousands of people have died. No one has lifted a finger. In Chechnya not even one tall building has remained standing. No one has lifted a finger. The hypocrisy of the just oily, western death sentence.

Was Saddam a criminal? Did he exterminate the Kurds using gas? Did he kill those who opposed him? Yes, definitely. But when the war in Iraq finishes, it’ll be possible to do the accounting of all the dead. And there will be many, many more than those attributed to Saddam’s regime. Will someone be strung up for the 40deathsadaythatnolongerhitthenews?

Will they be sentenced to paying a fine, handing over money, to ask for pardon? Saddam has paid his account with dignity. Hiroshima, the Gulags, Tibet will never be paid for by anyone.

COMMENTS
Engelgrafik said at 9:24 a.m. on Jan 3, 2007:
I agree that his death is a waste as I am against 99.9% of the death penalty, however I wish we, as a people, would protest just as vehemently when people like Saddam murder so many people. Do you know what I'm saying? It seems that Saddam's death has raised our eyebrows, yet where were we when he waged war upon the Kurds? Where were we during Rwanda? Has any of us participated in any protests of the Sudanese government for its support of those killing innocent people in Darfur? Did we walk the streets of our towns when people were being massacred in Srebenica or Rwanda? My biggest fear is that we, as a people, have lost our will and duty to the rule of International Law that was set forth over 60 years ago in a town in Germany called Nuremberg. It was there that we stated that there are laws higher than national law, and that nobody can say that it is a "domestic" issue when they wage war and murder upon their own people. And that the International Community has the RIGHT to involve itself whenever human rights are violated as they were in Nazi Germany. We TRIED those Nazis and brought them to justice. When will we start living up to this precedent.. this promise???
TavarES said at 12:34 p.m. on Jan 3, 2007:
If all the dictators and criminals had of being judged and being condemned as this, instead of leaving for the exile as lords, perhaps they thought two times about the crimes that commit. Very well, Claudio.
Zippywinds said at 3:00 p.m. on Jan 3, 2007:
very interesting perspective.
maybe a political group should be started,
great way to share political view.
Pkeener said at 3:08 p.m. on Jan 3, 2007:
Tabblo is a forum for expression. I have seen many political Tabblos by the gifted members, who, on most days, express themseves with beautiful and thought provoking images. I am not offended, on the contrary, I am excited and thankful to be a part of this world wide community. We all come from different backrounds, different points of view...and I feel Artistic Expression should never be censored, judged, or laden with rules. KELLY, if you think back, I wager you will find many of the people in your circle have made this type of Tabblo. ~Peace~ Pamela
Eduardo.affonso said at 8:26 p.m. on Jan 3, 2007:
I agree with Pam. Tabblo can become a great forum - not just a place where photos are posted. Discussing politics is a bit dangerous, but we all are civilized enough to share our opinions without offending anyone (I hope!). I'm 100% against death penalty (even for criminals like Saddam, Pinochet, Castro, Kim Jong Il). I once posted sort of a political tabblo (about the reelection of our corrupt President, and it caused me to break a friendship). It's a risk, but I think we shouldn't keep our eyes shut to subjects like Darfur, Chechenya, Somalia, Rwanda, North Korea - or even Kyoto Protocol, still not signed by... the USA.
Engelgrafik said at 8:52 p.m. on Jan 3, 2007:
Politics shouldn't be a sore subject. It is one of the many experiences of life. We live in a world where we've agreed to be civil to one another and we have leaders that supposedly help us with that. The reason why people disagree politically is because everyone has different ideas as to what is and isn't a solution, and what is and isn't a mistake. Mistakes and criticism are part of life, and these mistakes are part of our collective environment. Why deny its existence in a social networking environment like Tabblo? Think of it this way... what if a bunch of individuals from Israel or Gaza started posting pictures on Tabblo (there may well be!)... wouldn't it be kind of weird to tell them "no politics please!" when this may be a huge part of their lives?
Claudionegri79 said at 4:00 a.m. on Jan 4, 2007:
I don’t want offend anyone with this topic…. I published other political or social tabblo and nobody said me anything. However, if Antonio wants, I will delete “this” Tabblo.
I wrote in the “About me” section: Take a picture means to remember, and remember means to learn from our mistakes... That's why I love this art, because I hope that someone in the world would learn something from our pictures...
Chingyo said at 5:59 a.m. on Jan 4, 2007:
Hm. Well, aside from the Saddam issue I think the topic of politics in general IS going to offend and IS going to divide - a sore subject it is, and always has been. It's that simple. Goes with the territory when you're putting yourself out there. Whether you are speaking the truth or fact or not - I've always felt that one might risk more than you think. Claudio, I'm not offended at all by what you're doing, and I probably don't have to say this but, I hope discretion and careful choices are made here in order to create a succesful environment to share this stuff in, as the online world tends to be more often than not a breeding ground for misunderstanding. Me personally, I'm a little shaky on sharing my political views online because I can get pretty wound up and I often have fast and sharp fingers...LOL. As for the capital punishment issue, I'm tempted, but I haven't decided yet...
Engelgrafik said at 8:00 a.m. on Jan 4, 2007:
Politics cannot be personal. If politics were personal, it would be called Personalics. Politics is about "people", not "a person". Someone once said that "we deserve whatever leaders we get". Plato and other great minds knew that if people are apathetic about voicing opinions, then it's no wonder that people will become ignorant about what's going on and vote for the leaders that lead them in whatever direction they do. That goes for good or bad leaders equally. And I am not making any value judgement about Bush or Martin Luther King or Saddam or Jesus Christ or whoever... the value judgement is on us. Should we become apathetic and complacent and settle for the most conniving and talkative leaders? Or get on our toes and make politics part of our lives once again? Why shouldn't Tabblo be one mode for this discourse? Although I may disagree with something someone may say, I thank God that person has the guts to say it.
Jackhonest said at 10:49 a.m. on Jan 4, 2007:
Well, now he can not tell where he hide his mass destruction weapons nor write his memoirs.
Chingyo said at 3:13 p.m. on Jan 4, 2007:
Engelgrafik - Politics (ie: power) impacts human lives - how can you separate the personal from that?
Amy said at 10:32 p.m. on Jan 4, 2007:
ah yes, the hypocrisy. i don't know, it's all a little muddled in my head. :\
Claudionegri79 said at 3:31 a.m. on Jan 5, 2007:



From BeautifulLifen (I did delete your comments by mistake):



On Wed Jan 3 13:42:40 2007, thebeautifullife wrote:

Personally, I think Tabblo is not the place for political voicing...it is such a deep personal thing that it divides and causes arguments and it would cause people not to want to perhaps visit your tabblos anymore due to your views (not YOU per se, but anyone who posts political stuff). I was going to do that once and then immediately thought of this and deleted it. It seems Tabblo should be a neutral place. ....Any thoughts from anyone else????? :) Peace be with you.



On Thu Jan 4 13:07:55 2007, thebeautifullife wrote:
Thank you for inviting me again to see this Tabblo. (BTW, I don't think
Antonio would tell you to pull it. I never suggested that, so I hope you didn't think I did.).
TavarES said at 11:11 a.m. on Jan 5, 2007:
When reading all the confusion displayed here, start for saying that I am not apologist of the death penalty. However, I question:That mercy deserves a person who eliminates its fellow creature? I think that he cannot have pardon. In this site, I defend that all the questions must be displayed, therefore, it must be used by adult people and without preconceptions. Very bad it is not to respect the ideas and the subjects, only because a different idea for a also different reason is had. We cannot only look at it side and to say: “With the evil of the others I pass well”.
Forza Claudio.
Pkeener said at 11:24 a.m. on Jan 5, 2007:
JEFF and TAVAR I agree to both of your comments and I appreciate your ability to express your views so well. Grazie, Claudio.
AliDar said at 2:29 a.m. on Aug 27, 2007:
Artist have been including their social and political viewpoints in their works for centuries, and there have always been those wanting us to stick to painting (photographing) pretty pictures. I'm pleased that that wasn't the prevailing attitude here, and that this tabblo didn't get removed. Kudos, and thank you.
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